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That Was Then... This Is Now (1985) Timeline Explained – Every Event in Order

Release, runtime and language
1985 · 102 min · English
Directed by
Christopher Cain
Starring
Morgan Freeman, Emilio Estevez, Francis X. McCarthy, Craig Sheffer, Larry B. Scott, Jill Schoelen

In a gritty drama exploring loyalty and betrayal, Mark Jennings, a troubled young man, and Byron Douglas, his steadfast mentor, find their friendship strained by jealousy and the pursuit of power. A series of crimes tests the limits of their bond as the truth begins to surface, forcing them to confront difficult choices and ultimately revealing the fragility of their relationship.

On this page (6)
  1. 1 Events in order (15)
  2. 2 Timeline questions answered
  3. 3 The book behind the movie
  4. 4 Movie threads
  5. 5 Movies like That Was Then... This Is Now
  6. 6 Every angle

15 events in order · contains spoilers

That Was Then... This Is Now Timeline: Events in Chronological Order

Every key event of That Was Then... This Is Now (1985) in order, scene by scene, with when and where it takes place. Use it to untangle flashbacks, time jumps and parallel storylines, to refresh your memory before the sequel or to find the exact scene you are thinking of.

  1. Brothers Together

    Mark Jennings and Bryon Douglas have been living together as brothers since the tragic death of Mark's parents when he was just nine years old. They share a close bond, navigating the challenges of high school life together.

  2. Hustling for Fun

    After school, Mark and Bryon enjoy spending time at a local bowling alley and a bar where they hustle their peers at pool games. It's a carefree time for them, allowing them to escape from their daily struggles.

    Where
    Bowling alley and local bar
  3. A New Relationship

    Bryon begins dating Cathy Carlson, the sister of M&M, a younger teen that they both have befriended. This new relationship ignites a sense of responsibility in Bryon, who secures a job at a grocery store.

  4. Jealousy Brews

    As Bryon grows closer to Cathy, Mark starts feeling left out and becomes jealous of their relationship. His behavior deteriorates in the absence of Bryon's guidance, making him more aggressive and reckless.

  5. Tragic Loss

    The situation takes a dark turn when their mentor, bartender Charlie Woods, is shot and killed while protecting Mark and Bryon from a mugging. This traumatic event leaves deep emotional scars on both teens.

    Where
    Charlie's Bar
  6. M&M Goes Missing

    After Charlie's death, M&M mysteriously disappears, leading Bryon and Cathy into a frantic search for him. They experience growing tension and stress over his welfare during this troubling time.

  7. Suspicious Behavior

    Mark begins exhibiting suspicious behavior by spending large amounts of money without explaining where it comes from. This raises concerns for Bryon, who starts to suspect something is amiss.

  8. Angela's Revenge

    One night, Mark and Bryon pick up Angela, Bryon's ex-girlfriend, whose past actions led to Mark suffering a permanent scar. In a twisted act of revenge, Mark cuts off most of her hair while she is intoxicated and passed out.

  9. The Abandoned Warehouse

    Mark leads Bryon to an abandoned warehouse, claiming to know where M&M is. However, when they arrive, they find the place deserted, deepening Bryon's worries about Mark's behavior and choices.

    Where
    Abandoned warehouse
  10. M&M's Crisis

    After returning to the warehouse, Bryon and Cathy discover M&M in a dire state due to a drug overdose. M&M accuses Mark of being the one who sold him the drugs, causing significant rifts between all three friends.

    Where
    Abandoned warehouse
  11. Confrontation with Mark

    Back at home, Bryon uncovers a large stash of drugs hidden under Mark's mattress, realizing Mark has been selling drugs. This leads to a heated confrontation where Bryon demands Mark leave his house.

  12. Mark's Downward Spiral

    In a fit of anger, Mark attacks Bryon before taking off in their shared car. Driving recklessly, he is pursued by the police, resulting in a crash that ends with Mark's arrest.

  13. The Divide Grows

    After Mark's arrest, Bryon visits him in a juvenile detention facility where they both acknowledge the irreversible path their lives have taken. Their once close relationship is forever altered.

    Where
    Juvenile detention facility
  14. A Reckless Decision

    As Bryon leaves the facility, he impulsively jumps into a running Porsche and goes for a high-speed joyride. This reckless act serves as a nostalgic reminder of better times but also highlights how much he has changed.

  15. Moving Forward

    Returning the car, Bryon walks away without looking back at Mark, signaling a significant closure. He contemplates the painful changes in their lives, marking the end of their childhood together.

Last updated: June 11, 2025 at 15:03

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Timeline questions answered

That Was Then... This Is Now Timeline Explained: Your Questions Answered

When does it happen, and why in that order? The questions people ask about the chronology of That Was Then... This Is Now (1985): time jumps, flashbacks, cause and effect between scenes and the correct order of events, each answered with spoilers.

Q1

Why does Bryon kick Mark out of his house?

Bryon discovers a large stash of pills hidden under Mark's mattress and realizes Mark has been dealing drugs. Even more devastating, Bryon learns that Mark sold drugs to M&M, who later suffered a drug overdose. When Bryon confronts Mark about the drug dealing, Mark attacks him, prompting Bryon to order him to leave.

Foreshadowing: Earlier, Mark exhibits suspicious behavior by spending large amounts of money without explanation, raising Bryon's concerns.

  • bryon
  • mark
  • drugs
  • confrontation
  • kicked out
Q2

What happens to Charlie Woods?

Charlie Woods, the bartender who serves as a father figure to Mark and Bryon, is shot and killed while trying to protect the boys during a mugging outside the bar. This tragic event occurs suddenly and leaves both teens with deep emotional scars.

  • charlie woods
  • murder
  • mugging
  • death
  • mentor
Q3

Why does Mark cut off Angela's hair?

Mark seeks revenge against Angela Shepard, who was Bryon's ex-girlfriend. Angela had previously instigated a fight that resulted in Mark getting a permanent scar on his forehead. While Angela is drunk and unconscious, Mark cuts off a significant portion of her hair as payback for that earlier incident.

  • mark
  • angela
  • revenge
  • hair
  • scar
Q4

Why does Mark start selling drugs?

Mark begins dealing drugs primarily because he feels neglected and jealous after Bryon starts dating Cathy and gets a job at a grocery store. With Bryon spending less time with him, Mark becomes resentful and turns to drug dealing as a way to make quick money, though this ultimately destroys his friendship with Bryon and leads to his arrest.

Foreshadowing: Mark exhibits suspicious behavior by spending large amounts of money without explaining where it comes from, raising Bryon's concerns early on.

  • mark
  • drugs
  • selling
  • money
  • jealousy
Q5

What happens to M&M at the abandoned warehouse?

When Bryon and Cathy return to the abandoned warehouse, they discover M&M suffering from a drug overdose and experiencing a harrowing trip. M&M accuses Mark of being the one who sold him the drugs, which causes a significant rift between all three friends and leads Cathy to end her relationship with Bryon out of frustration.

Foreshadowing: Earlier, Mark leads Bryon to the warehouse claiming to know where M&M is, but they find it empty, deepening Bryon's worries.

  • m&m
  • warehouse
  • overdose
  • drugs
  • accusation
Q6

What does the title "That Was Then... This Is Now" mean?

The title reflects the profound change in Mark and Bryon's relationship over the course of the film. At the juvenile detention center, Mark himself delivers this line to acknowledge that their close brotherly bond has been permanently altered. Their childhood friendship is over, and they have now taken fundamentally different paths in life.

  • title
  • meaning
  • friendship
  • change
  • growth
Q7

Why does Bryon take the Porsche for a joyride at the end?

After visiting Mark at the juvenile detention center, Bryon impulsively hops into a running Porsche and takes it for a wild spin. This reckless act serves as a nostalgic reminder of their carefree youth and better times together, but it also highlights how much Bryon has changed. He eventually returns the car but walks away without looking back at Mark, symbolizing his final break from their past.

Foreshadowing: Earlier, the two friends spent their days hustling at the bowling alley and pool games, living carefree lives before everything changed.

  • bryon
  • porsche
  • joyride
  • nostalgia
  • ending
Q8

What causes Mark and Bryon's friendship to end?

The friendship ends due to a combination of factors: Mark becomes jealous and resentful as Bryon matures, gets a job, and starts a relationship with Cathy. Mark turns to drug dealing, which leads to M&M's overdose. When Bryon discovers the drugs and confronts Mark, Mark attacks him. After Mark's arrest and time in juvenile detention, they reconcile but both acknowledge their bond is forever changed and can never return to what it was.

Foreshadowing: Mark's behavior deteriorates in the absence of Bryon's guidance, making him more aggressive and reckless.

  • mark
  • bryon
  • friendship
  • breakup
  • drugs
  • arrest
Q9

Why does Mark become jealous of Bryon's relationship with Cathy?

Mark becomes jealous because he feels neglected as Bryon spends more time with Cathy. Since losing his parents at age nine, Bryon has been Mark's primary family and support system. When Bryon gets a job at a grocery store and starts dating Cathy, Mark feels abandoned and replaced, which triggers his rebellious and destructive behavior.

  • mark
  • jealousy
  • cathy
  • bryon
  • neglected
Q10

Why does Mark get arrested?

After Bryon discovers Mark's drug stash and orders him to leave, Mark attacks Bryon in a fit of anger. He then takes their shared car and drives recklessly, leading to a police chase that ends in a crash. Mark is subsequently arrested and placed in a juvenile detention facility.

Foreshadowing: Earlier, Mark exhibits reckless behavior and aggression as his relationship with Bryon deteriorates.

  • mark
  • arrested
  • car crash
  • police chase
  • juvenile detention

Movie threads

More Movies Like That Was Then... This Is Now, by Mood & Story

Curated lists built around what makes That Was Then... This Is Now tick: the same mood, the same kind of story or the same emotional payoff. Each list explains why these movies belong together.

Gritty Coming-of-Age Friendship Dramas like That Was Then... This Is Now

Stories where lifelong friendships fracture under the harsh realities of growing up. If you liked the painful dissolution of friendship in That Was Then... This Is Now, explore similar movies about brotherly bonds tested by betrayal and growing apart. These coming-of-age stories capture the melancholy and heavy emotional weight of losing childhood connections.

  • gritty
  • angsty
  • melancholic
  • tragic
  • nostalgic
  • confrontational
  • Tone: melancholic, tragic, confrontational
  • Pacing: steady, character driven
Why these movies?

The story pattern: These narratives follow a pair or group of close-knit friends whose seemingly unbreakable bond is strained by external pressures like crime, jealousy, or simply the act of maturing at different speeds. The story arc is often a linear, straightforward progression toward an irreversible rift, culminating in a bittersweet or tragic ending that mourns the loss of youthful innocence.

Why they belong together: Movies in this thread share a melancholic tone, heavy emotional weight, and a steady, character-driven pace. They are united by their central theme of a foundational friendship collapsing, often set against a backdrop of reckless youth and juvenile delinquency, creating a specific, nostalgic, and angsty mood.

Movies with Bittersweet Moral Choices like That Was Then... This Is Now

Films where a decisive moral act saves some but irrevocably destroys a relationship. Find films similar to That Was Then... This Is Now, where a character's moral decision leads to a bittersweet ending. If you liked how Bryon's choice created a poignant conclusion, explore other stories about the heavy consequences of doing the right thing.

  • bittersweet
  • moral dilemma
  • heavy
  • tragic
  • tense
  • consequential
  • Tone: bittersweet, melancholic, heavy
  • Pacing: steady, deliberate
Why these movies?

The story pattern: The narrative pattern revolves around a central ethical dilemma that pits loyalty against a harsh principle or safety. The protagonist's choice resolves the immediate danger or conflict but severs a key relationship, resulting in an ending that is simultaneously necessary and devastating. The emotional journey is one of profound loss masked by a thin veneer of progress.

Why they belong together: These films are grouped by their shared narrative structure of a pivotal moral choice and their specific emotional payoff: a bittersweet ending. They consistently feature heavy emotional weight, straightforward-to-moderate complexity, and a tone that balances melancholy with the grim satisfaction of a difficult duty done.

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