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If There Be Thorns (2015) Timeline Explained – Every Event in Order

Release, runtime and language
2015 · 100 mins · English
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Directed by
Nancy Savoca
Starring
Veena Sood, Daniel Martin, Heather Graham, Glynis Davies, Mason Cook, Rachael Carpani

Christopher and Cathy Dollanganger are living together as husband and wife with Cathy’s two sons, who are unaware of the disturbing nature of their relationship. A mysterious neighbor moves in next door, befriending the younger boy, Bart, and triggering a strange transformation in him. Bart begins to accuse Cathy and Christopher, and when Christopher discovers the neighbor is his own mother, Corrine Dollanganger, long-buried family secrets surface, leading to a tragic and devastating climax.

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  1. 1 Where to watch
  2. 2 Events in order (14)
  3. 3 Timeline questions answered
  4. 4 Movie threads
  5. 5 Every angle
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14 events in order · contains spoilers

If There Be Thorns Timeline: Events in Chronological Order

Every key event of If There Be Thorns (2015) in order, scene by scene, with when and where it takes place. Use it to untangle flashbacks, time jumps and parallel storylines, to refresh your memory before the sequel or to find the exact scene you are thinking of.

  1. Bart's pain insensitivity and imagined world

    Bart lives with congenital analgesia, so he cannot feel pain, which fuels reckless behavior and a rich fantasy life. He uses make-believe to cope with family tensions and to hide misdeeds from others. This early dynamic foreshadows the darker events to come.

    Where
    Family home
  2. Cathy and Chris form a blended family; Cindy joins

    Cathy and Chris live as husband and wife while Cathy dreams of having a daughter. They adopt Cindy, the two-year-old daughter of a former dance student, to complete their family. Bart resents the attention Cathy gives to the new sister, sowing seeds of insecurity.

    Where
    Family home
  3. Bart befriends the elderly neighbor

    Bart is drawn to the lonely next-door neighbor who welcomes him with cookies and gifts, asking him to call her 'Grandmother.' She cultivates secrecy by asking for Bart to keep their interactions private from his mother. The elderly woman's manservant, John Amos, also befriends Bart and hints at deeper, troubling stories about women.

    Where
    Next door neighbor's house
  4. Jory discovers his grandmother's shocking claim

    The old lady tells Jory that she is actually his grandmother Corrine. Jory initially does not believe her and tries to avoid her, while this revelation plants seeds of suspicion about the family's hidden history.

    Where
    Next door neighbor's house
  5. Bart embraces the great-grandfather persona

    Influenced by the diary given by John and the grandmother's gifts, Bart begins to pretend he is his great-grandfather Malcolm Foxworth. His newfound identity fuels acts of aggression toward his siblings and parents, signaling a dangerous turn in the household.

    Where
    Family home
  6. Clover's death and Bart's tetanus scare

    Bart's violence escalates when Jory's dog Clover goes missing and is found dead with barbed wire. Soon after, Bart nearly dies from tetanus, an incident that heightens the family's fear and pushes Jory toward suspecting the neighbor's involvement in the turmoil. Jory's suspicions begin to cohere around the mysterious neighbor.

    Where
    Family home / yard
  7. Chris confronts Corrine; Corrine pleads; Cathy kept in the dark

    After Bart's tetanus scare, Jory tells Chris about his suspicions. They confront the old woman, who is revealed to be Corrine, Chris's mother. Corrine pleads for forgiveness, but Chris orders her to stay away and chooses not to tell Cathy about the confrontation.

    Where
    Next door neighbor's house
  8. Cathy's accident and life-writing begins

    Cathy is injured in an accident and is told she will never dance again, leaving her wheelchair-bound. She begins writing the story of her life, attempting to make sense of the past. Bart then steals pages from her manuscript, sparking the unraveling of family secrets.

    Where
    Family home
  9. Bart learns the true family history

    Bart discovers that Cathy and Chris are siblings and that Corrine had imprisoned them to gain an inheritance. He proclaims them 'Devil's spawn' and clings to John, who feeds his resolve with more deceitful tales.

    Where
    Family home
  10. Madame Marisha confronts Cathy; forgiveness begins

    Jory's paternal grandmother Madame Marisha Rosencoff visits and confronts Cathy about her relationship with 'her brother Christopher.' After hearing the truth and its traumas, Jory forgives his parents, recognizing the tragedy they've endured.

    Where
    Paternal grandmother's home
  11. Cathy confronts Corrine; John stops the confrontation

    Cathy learns Corrine's true identity after Bart mentions gifts, and Corrine confronts Cathy. John knocks both women unconscious, ending the confrontation for the moment as part of his manipulative plan.

    Where
    Family home
  12. Cellar trap and Bart's chilling plan

    Under John's direction, Bart locks Cathy and Corrine in the cellar with the intent to starve them to death. Bart's belief in his great-grandfather's vengeance fuels this brutal act, revealing the depth of his breaking point.

    Where
    House cellar
  13. House fire and the fall of Corrine

    The house catches fire as Bart's plan spirals out of control. Corrine dies from heart failure as she is pulled from the cellar, while John perishes inside, abandoned by his scheme. Cathy is saved by Chris and others, ending Corrine's reign of terror.

    Where
    House
  14. Epilogue: forgiveness and future secrecy

    In the epilogue narrated by Cathy, she forgives her mother at Corrine's funeral and the family resolves not to reveal their biological relationship. Bart appears tempered by the events but remains haunted by Malcolm Foxworth's legacy and the fortune he stands to inherit.

    Where
    Corrine's funeral and family home

Last updated: October 01, 2025 at 13:07

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Timeline questions answered

If There Be Thorns Timeline Explained: Your Questions Answered

When does it happen, and why in that order? The questions people ask about the chronology of If There Be Thorns (2015): time jumps, flashbacks, cause and effect between scenes and the correct order of events, each answered with spoilers.

Q1

Why does Bart become violent and attack his family?

Bart's transformation is triggered by several factors working together. Corrine deliberately cultivates a secret relationship with him, giving him gifts and calling him 'Grandmother' to fill his need for attention. Her butler John Amos fuels his aggression by presenting a fake diary from great-grandfather Malcolm Foxworth and framing male power as domination. Bart's congenital analgesia, his inability to feel pain, makes him physically incapable of sensing danger from his own violent acts, which emboldens him. The combination of emotional manipulation, a fictional ancestral legacy, and his condition transforms his previously imaginative play into genuine cruelty toward his siblings and parents.

Foreshadowing: Bart's early habit of creating elaborate imaginary worlds foreshadows his willingness to adopt the Malcolm Foxworth persona.

  • bart sheffield
  • corrine
  • violence
  • manipulation
  • congenital analgesia
Q2

Who is the elderly neighbor that befriends Bart?

The elderly neighbor is Corrine Foxworth Winslow, who is actually Christopher's biological mother and the children's grandmother. She moved next door deliberately to insert herself into their lives. Corrine had previously imprisoned her own children Christopher and Cathy (who are siblings) in an attic for years to steal an inheritance, and now she seeks to reconnect with her family after many years. Her motivations appear complex, mixing loneliness with a desire for redemption, though her methods of manipulating Bart through secrecy and gifts ultimately cause tragic consequences.

Foreshadowing: Corrine's initial request that Bart keep their relationship hidden plants the seeds of her manipulative intent.

  • corrine foxworth
  • neighbor
  • grandmother
  • christopher mother
Q3

What is the diary that Bart reads and why does it matter?

The diary belongs to Bart's great-grandfather Malcolm Foxworth and is presented to him by John Amos, Corrine's butler. The diary is likely fabricated or heavily manipulated to portray Malcolm as a powerful, vengeful patriarch who conquered adversity through ruthless ambition. John uses it to convince Bart that he is a vessel for Malcolm's spirit and legacy, urging him to embrace 'male power' and see women, particularly Cathy and Corrine, as enemies to be destroyed. This narrative gives Bart a twisted sense of purpose and justifies his escalating violence as fulfilling his ancestor's will.

Foreshadowing: John Amos's earlier hints about 'troublesome women' in the Foxworth family history set up the diary's themes of female villainy.

  • malcolm foxworth
  • diary
  • john amos
  • great-grandfather
  • manipulation
Q4

Why does Bart lock Cathy and Corrine in the cellar?

Bart locks both women in the cellar on John Amos's direct orders. By this point, Bart has fully internalized the belief that he is Malcolm Foxworth's reincarnation, tasked with punishing the 'wicked' women in his bloodline. John manipulates him by framing the cellar starvation as a just execution of Malcolm's vengeance. Bart sees this not as murder but as fulfilling his ancestral destiny, eliminating the women who supposedly ruined the Foxworth family legacy. His psychosis has reached the point where he believes he is acting righteous.

Foreshadowing: Bart's earlier proclamation that Cathy and Chris are 'Devil's spawn' after reading Cathy's manuscript shows his escalating dehumanization of his own family.

  • bart
  • cellar
  • john amos
  • corrine
  • cathy
  • starvation
Q5

How does the house fire start?

The fire starts accidentally during Bart's plan to trap Cathy and Corrine in the cellar. While the exact mechanism isn't detailed, the chaos of the cellar lockdown and the family's desperate escape creates conditions for the blaze. The fire spreads quickly enough that John Amos becomes trapped inside and dies, while Corrine succumbs to heart failure when pulled from the cellar. Bart does manage to unlock the cellar door before the fire consumes the house, allowing Cathy and Corrine to be reached, though Corrine's injuries prove fatal.

Foreshadowing: The escalation from Bart's violent acts to direct imprisonment foreshadows further loss of control.

  • fire
  • corrine death
  • john amos
  • bart
  • house burning
Q6

Why does Chris keep Corrine's identity secret from Cathy?

Chris chooses not to tell Cathy about confronting Corrine because he wants to protect her from the painful truth about his mother. Cathy has already suffered enormously from her childhood imprisonment and abuse at Corrine's hands, and Chris believes adding this confrontation would only reopen old traumas. However, this decision backfires catastrophically, it allows Corrine to continue manipulating Bart undetected and ultimately enables the tragic events that follow. Chris's protective impulse becomes a form of denial that endangers his entire family.

Foreshadowing: Cathy's earlier longing for a daughter she can call 'truly hers' reflects her desire to create new, untainted family bonds, bonds Corrine ultimately poisons further.

  • chris
  • corrine
  • secret
  • cathy
  • protection
  • confrontation
Q7

What family secret does Bart discover in Cathy's manuscript?

Bart discovers the shocking truth that Cathy and Christopher are biological brother and sister. As children, they were imprisoned in an attic by their own mother Corrine so she could collect their inheritance. The siblings escaped and eventually married under assumed names (Cathy Sheffield and Chris), having children together without knowing their true relationship. When Bart reads Cathy's manuscript, her attempt to process her traumatic past, he learns this horrifying family secret. This revelation fuels his psychosis, as he now views his parents as 'Devil's spawn' deserving of the punishment Malcolm's spirit supposedly demands.

Foreshadowing: Jory's earlier curiosity about why Cathy married her first husband Paul before Chris plants the seed of suspicion about unusual family patterns.

  • incest
  • family secret
  • cathy
  • christopher
  • manuscript
  • corrine attic
Q8

Does Bart die in the house fire?

Bart does not die in the fire. After locking Cathy and Corrine in the cellar, he becomes trapped himself as the house ignites. However, he manages to unlock the cellar door before fleeing, allowing rescuers to reach the women inside. While Corrine dies from her injuries and John perishes inside, Bart escapes with his life. In the epilogue, he appears emotionally tempered by the ordeal but remains haunted by the promise of Malcolm Foxworth's fortune and the power he associated with his great-grandfather's legacy.

Foreshadowing: Corrine's final act, urging Bart to save himself rather than them, suggests a rare moment of genuine care beneath her manipulation.

  • bart
  • fire
  • survival
  • corrine
  • john amos death
Q9

Why does Jory forgive his parents after learning the truth?

Jory forgives his parents after learning the full extent of their traumatic childhoods from his paternal grandmother Madame Marisha Rosencoff. Marisha reveals that Jory's biological father was Julian Marquet, not Chris, but more importantly, she confronts Cathy about the family's tangled history. After hearing how Christopher and Cathy were imprisoned, abused, and forced to build a life under false pretenses, how they were victims of Corrine's greed, Jory recognizes that his parents acted out of desperation and survival rather than intentional deception. Their tragedy becomes a legacy he chooses to accept rather than perpetuate.

Foreshadowing: Jory's persistent suspicion of Corrine throughout the film shows his protective instincts toward his family, which ultimately transforms into understanding.

  • jory
  • forgiveness
  • parents
  • marisha
  • truth
  • family trauma
Q10

What is Bart's condition and why is it significant?

Bart has congenital analgesia, an extremely rare genetic condition that prevents him from feeling physical pain. This is medically dangerous because it means he cannot sense injuries, infections, or damage to his own body, he could break a bone or suffer a serious cut without realizing it. In the story, this condition contributes to his psychological transformation by making him physically incapable of recognizing danger from his own violent actions. When he nearly dies from tetanus after a minor cut goes untreated (because he felt nothing), it represents both his physical vulnerability and the escalation that finally prompts Jory to reveal his suspicions about Corrine.

Foreshadowing: The early scene showing Bart's reckless behavior and injuries that don't bother him establishes his physical disconnection from consequences.

  • congenital analgesia
  • pain insensitivity
  • bart
  • medical condition
  • tetanus

Movie threads

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Curated lists built around what makes If There Be Thorns tick: the same mood, the same kind of story or the same emotional payoff. Each list explains why these movies belong together.

Dramas of toxic family secrets like If There Be Thorns

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  • haunting
  • tense
  • melancholic
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  • Pacing: steady, deliberate
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Why they belong together: Movies are grouped here for their central focus on a destructive family secret as the primary source of conflict. They share a mood of creeping dread and claustrophobia, a tone of tragic inevitability, and a narrative structure where the past actively destroys the present.

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  • oppressive
  • tense
  • anxious
  • claustrophobic
  • gloomy
  • melancholic
  • Tone: tense, bleak
  • Pacing: steady, slow burn
Why these movies?

The story pattern: The narrative pattern involves a confined setting, like a family home, that becomes a pressure cooker. The pacing is steady, not rushed, allowing unease to simmer and build. The conflict is primarily psychological, focusing on deteriorating mental states and emotional manipulation, which escalates methodically towards an inevitable, tragic breaking point.

Why they belong together: These films are united by their shared vibe of sustained psychological unease. They prioritize mood over action, using a steady pace to create an overwhelming feeling of dread. The experience is defined by its heaviness, tension, and the bleak, often tragic, emotional journey.

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